6 thoughts on “Srila Prabhupada on Unity & Cooperation

  1. Hare Krishna. Respects. All glories to Srila Prabhupada!

    Unless we study seriously what Srila Prabhupada taught on Istagosthi, personal ambition, unity, cooperation and good management, we will not be able to establish true unity, cooperation, trust and love as Srila Prabhupada wants among ourselves. This means we will promote true bhakti as it is and will not go back to Godhead. This is because we are all very immature in spiritual life. We think ourselves the doers and have the mental need to be thought as someone very great. Due to this, there is no Istagosthi or spiritual communications. This triggers so being humbler than the straw is kicked out totally. Competition, indifference, conflict, anger and attempt to dominate all others, using unethical methodology and having an attitude with no bases, that in at least some cases, it would be better if some Prabhupadanugas did not exist. Offending Srila Prabhupada and his followers, with no doubt can lead to hellish condition of life. So we must not blindly follow some “great preacher,” but we must seriously study and practice all Srila Prabhupada taught on Istagosthi, unity, cooperation, personal ambition, spiritual management, trust and love.

  2. As written above “we must seriously study and practice all Srila Prabhupada taught on Istagosthi, unity, cooperation, personal ambition, spiritual management, trust and love” and not follow some great preacher, so true prabhu!
    As is seen in both ISKCONs & some pro riviks,
    it’s very hard to find to experience unity and cooperation, most brainwashed by some great preacher.

    Appreciate being listed here on your “Associated Centers/contacts”
    this site also mentions ISKCON Viakunta Hill and Hare Krsna Hill here in Bangalore.
    Something you should mention in that list is that ISKCON Bangalore group of temples are for “Ïndians” only and western or international devotee NOT welcomed.

    This western devotee was told by one of Madhu Pandit P. generals that they do NOT want any of their Indian devotees to associate with me and I am not allowed to do any service with them, as I’d proposed to train up their men to distrube books.

    Living in their ISKCON Gokulam apartments near their new temple on Vaikunta hill the past three years, been inviting western and internatonal devotees to come and live here, once Madhu Pandit P. heard about this, they now want me out of here!
    Their leaders avoid me as must as possible, not even talking to me (same as other ISKCON) but I refuse to leave the temples and will continue visiting them.
    MPD group of temples have no rasa (taste), kirtans, classes very boring, their sunday feast is in the morning where they serve bland tasting Kitchari. At least when I go to ISKCON Vrndavan, great Kirtans classes and real good tasting prasadam with wonderful international association and respect to Srila Prabhupada disicples.

    Flew to San Francisco recently to renew passport, visited the Sunnyvale temple (MPD) where you see no western or International devotees. The pro rivik devotees in that area do not asscociate with them, because of experiencing heavy “racism” by the “only Indian” rivik temple in Sunnyvale, as In India, they are going for rich Hindus to keep the money flowing with big temples planned and their only Indian devotees allowed.

    In Srila Prabhupada’s Srimad Bahagvatam Introduction he writes “Sri Ramananda Raya was a self realized soul, although he belonged to a caste lower than the brahmana in social status and he was a high government servant, Still, Sri Caitanya Mahaprabhu accepted him as a liberated soul on the strength of the high order of his realization of transcendental knowledge., Simmilary, Sri Caitanya accepted Srila Haridasa Thakura, a veteran devotee of the Lord coming from a Mohammedan family. And there are many other great devotees of the Lord who came from different communities, sects and castes. The Lord’s only criterion was the standard of devotional service of the partricular person”.
    Try telling that to both ISKCONs.

    To stay in the fire I’ve to go to ISKCON Vrndavan Krsna Balaram temple to do service and get surcharged twice a year. Then back to Bangalore where my service is caring for local cows and book distribution, avoiding leaders of both ISKCONs.

    Please, if you can contact the person listing our “Associated Centers/contacts”
    list that includes MPD temples, they should note that western devotees are not welcome to serve or associate in their opulent temples.
    They will be happy to charge you high rate in their guesthouses and be kind to you since they know you are only visiting, but try to get engagememt with them, its as bad as the other ISKCON who reject pro rivik devotees!

    Both ISKCONs are now in Supreme court in New Dehli wasting millions of dollars fighting over property control with a decison coming Decemeber 15th, my prediction is that they will not settle the case and keep fighting each other for years to come. Meantime, this 62 yr old disciple of Srila Prabhupada is going senile with a falling apart mind and body, but is still looking for another pro rivik community in Europe or INDIA for service or please join me here, to hell with the rascals using Prabhupada’s movement to enrich themselves!
    Any suggestions, let me know.
    Thank you for your important time to rant.
    Your unqualified servant,
    Rathayatra dasa
    PS If I offended anyone , please forgive me and then read Prabhupada’s books.

    1. Hare Krishna Rathyatra Dad Prabhu
      All glories to Srila Prabhupada
      How this problem can be solved and 2 groups will unite and work togateher for Krishna Consciousness?
      These conflicts are creating bad name for ISKCON. I as a neophyte got frustrated knowing these things. In the clutches of this conflict we will not be able to set an example for the world, as dreamed by HDG Srila Prabhupada…

      1. Hare Krishna Kashyap prabhu. Respects. All glories to Srila Prabhupada. Thanks for your correct perspective and concern about the tangible fact that the two groups ritviks and non ritviks are not only having conflict with each other, but actually if you research more, the factual evidence shows that both groups have no Istagosthi, (spiritual communication) unity and cooperation even among their own separate internal affairs. This is because in the fervor to show we are special spiritually when we are actually not, it has escaped us to learned the reasons for ISKCON, which are, Istagosthi, unity, cooperation, trust and love and forgotten that we are to consider ourselves humbly fallen rotten. This is the advise of Srila Prabhupada. Interestingly, I don’t know one devotee that knows by heart the reasons for ISKCON, when we should know them and practice them. You can learn about these in this web site in articles under Unity and cooperation. Here, Srila Prabhupada explains that competition is good, but due to ego based lack of Istagosthi, competition turns into anger and efforts to dominate. This is exactly what has been going on in both major camps even internally as I said before, so big conflict arises and thus not possible to have a good reputation and we may actually end up in Pataloka (Hell) instead of Krishna Loka for this, since it is guru aparadha or great offense against Srila Prabhupada who wants we be known for how much we love each other and not for how much we fight like cats and dogs. Having said the above, the solution is tangibly here for all to practice. It’s is simply a matter of education and various devotees including many new ones in their teens and 20s are learning it and practicing it. So there is a all hope. The younger ones like yourself, they can clearly see that the senior ones are creating conflicts based on ego, lack of consideration for Srila Prabhupada and ignorance. I have met a couple that have been around just two years, but they know more about the conflict than senior men and me although I started serving for unity and cooperation in the mid 90s when “I” (Sri Krishna does all) organized the Srila Prabhupada family reunion and 400 devotees attended. So we more senior should be humble enough and try to help in all ways possible, so you the younger generation will establish more easily unity and cooperation. Srila Prabhupada made the statement that if we don’t cooperate, we render him useless, so we should all put our false egos aside and not offend Srila Prabhupada, who also said that even if we disagree, we should still cooperate. One other thing that is helping a lot, is the fact that some senior and younger devotees, are becoming familiar with a little known and honored order. In May 11 1977, Srila Prabhupada wrote and signed the order, “Everyone should should follow the example of Jayananda.” Please try to learn about Jayananda prabhu. He passed away on May 1 1977. Srila Prabhupada was most fond of him and wrote that he was most proud to have such an ideal disciple. He wrote that Jayananda prabhu went back to Krishna Loka and ordered that his picture we placed in all Lord Jagganath carts in RathaYatras and ordered that he be placed in the Vaisnava calendar which is reserved for siddhas, or perfect devotees. So all hope is there. Just Google Jayananda Thakur to learn more about him and or read here on this web site about him. I and many identify with your concern and are happy to know of someone like you. Life in this world is not easy, but by taking up the garce of Sri Krishna, Srila Prabhupada and devotees like Jayananda prabhu, we know that it’s just a matter of time and we will have the unity and cooperation They all want from us. Thanks again! Sincerely, Mahatma Dasa

  3. Hare Krishna Rathayatra Das prabhu. Respects. All glories to Srila Prabhupada. Yes, we must only follow Srila Prabhupada and the best example of Jayananda das, as Srila Prabhupada advise we do. This means, all inclusive Istagosthi and not deviated secret “tea parties, by capricious and temperamental ones, who do not even know guru tattwa. We must unite and cooperate, despite disagreements, Srila Prabhupada says. This will bring the egos down and the atman closer to love and Krishna Loka, the goal of the most noble science of bhakti.

  4. Is There Any Hope Left For The Hare Krsna Movement?

    Hare Krsna.

    Do you think at this point in history that the Hare Krsna movement has any hope of expanding it’s area of influence beyond the borders of simple temples, home programmes and on line web sites? Will it actually start to influence the leaders of the free world and realistically relieve the suffering of the people living in American and Canadian inner cities before the end of this decade?
    If so is there an ongoing plan for this to take place soon? Could you possibly give some details of that plan?
    Do you think that regular daily chanting of Hare Krsna on the streets, distribution of the founders original first printing books and the distribution of the holy food called prasadam will return to North America as it did in the early 1970’s in all major US and Canadian cities before the end of 2025?

    Charles Dowson
    Prabhupada Press

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